I had a very interesting exchange with David Futrelle on Twitter the other night. Futrelle, of course, is the mastermind behind WeHuntedTheMammoth.com (formerly Manboobz). By “mastermind,” I actually mean “mentally retarded person,” of course. This gluttonous windbag likes to keep tabs on the manosphere and all those who dare criticize the sacred cow that is feminism. He documents what he perceives to be “misogyny” and is even kind enough to issue a “trigger warning” disclaimer for the easily offended (wimps). Now, readers of AVfM will be familiar with Futrelle’s intellectually dishonest tactics. Time and time again, he has been exposed for outright lies and passive-aggressive behaviour through his blog. Many times he has falsely accused Paul Elam and AVfM of promoting violence against women.
This exchange on Twitter started over Futrelle’s recent post about Janet Bloomfield posting a screenshot from what appeared to have been taken from Anita Sarkeesian’s Twitter feed but was actually a doctored image taken from a Facebook paged called “Crazy Feminist Quotes.” Cue the soapbox grandstanding and hilarious accusations of “spreading libel.” While Futrelle was coming at Janet Bloomfield on Twitter, I had stepped in to remind him that he is one to talk, since misrepresenting what other people say seems to be a common practice for him. Cue the demands for a citation. That’s when I countered with, “Where are your citations when you claim AVFM promotes violence against women?”
@MadShangi@JudgyBitch1 AVFM uses violent rhetoric; they hosted a terrorist menifesto on their site. But they always avoid explicitly
My response:
@DavidFutrelle@JudgyBitch1 Um, that wasn’t a citation, buddy. Try again?
People, what followed next was pure gold. To support the claims he’s made on his blog, guess what he started citing as a reference. That’s right, his very own goddamn blog.
David Futrelle
@DavidFutrelle
@MadShangi@JudgyBitch1 See these posts for starters. http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2013/10/18/paul-elam-of-a-voice-for-men-in-his-own-words/ …http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2013/02/12/with-courthouse-violence-on-the-rise-mens-rights-activists-continue-to-lionize-the-author-of-a-terrorist-manifesto-urging-men-to-burn-down-courthouses/ …
@DavidFutrelle
@MadShangi@JudgyBitch1 MY POSTS LINK DIRECTLY TO AVFM. THE LINKS ARE ALL THERE. If you won’t even bother to look, no point in discussing.
Patrick John Doran
@MadShangi@DavidFutrelle@JudgyBitch1 Why is it that you have to use your own blog to support your own claim? You’re pathetic!
Notice the use of RAGECAPS? He’s getting frustrated for being expected to show some accountability. There’s a very specific reason for him linking to his own blog, instead of linking to the actual source, which he claims promotes violence. You can’t show the source in its original context because then he would not have control over how it’s presented with his special brand of manipulation. But, I won’t budge.
@DavidFutrelle
@MadShangi@JudgyBitch1 Look at what I gave you and your questions will be answered. Otherwise we are done here.
@MadShangi@DavidFutrelle@JudgyBitch1 I don’t want your version of what was written on AVFM. I want was what actually written on AVFM. Link, please.
@DavidFutrelle@MadShangi@JudgyBitch1 direct links to some of what elam’s written http://web.archive.org/web/20110702180031/http://www.avoiceformen.com/2010/10/22/if-you-see-jezebel-in-the-road-run-the-bitch-down/ …http://www.donotlink.com/framed?516828 http://books.google.com/books?id=vTwgrcTOfpwC&pg=PA20&lpg=PA20&dq=%22paul+elam%22+addict&source=bl&ots=OpLKl1EFii&sig=7G5rPUyjEMQn2Mt-d0EY-NbrZFc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=K613U7WCCMWMyATv0YKAAg&ved=0CKcBEOgBMAw#v=onepage&q=%22paul%20elam%22%20addict&f=false …
@DavidFutrelle@MadShangi@JudgyBitch1 But you won’t know what I specifically said about any of these things unless you actually read what I wrote.
@DavidFutrelle@MadShangi@JudgyBitch1 If you read those links AND what I wrote about them we can have a discussion, otherwise it’s pointless.
@MadShangi@DavidFutrelle@JudgyBitch1 From the article: “Now, am I serious about this? No.” You just got PWNed, bitch.
@DavidFutrelle@MadShangi@JudgyBitch1 Did you read what immediately followed that? Read my post on the subject for a detailed discussion of that. PWNed!
@MadShangi@DavidFutrelle@JudgyBitch1 Here’s my citation proving you’re full of shit. http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2013/02/12/with-courthouse-violence-on-the-rise-mens-rights-activists-continue-to-lionize-the-author-of-a-terrorist-manifesto-urging-men-to-burn-down-courthouses/ … See that? PWNed.
@MadShangi@DavidFutrelle@JudgyBitch1 See what I did there? I just linked you to your own mealy-mouthed bullshit. LOL!
@DavidFutrelle@MadShangi@JudgyBitch1 Are you 5 years old? Bye.
@MadShangi@DavidFutrelle@JudgyBitch1 Wahhh!
@MadShangi@DavidFutrelle@JudgyBitch1 Your intellectual dishonesty has just been exposed for all of Twitter to see.
@MadShangi@DavidFutrelle@JudgyBitch1 Your “evidence” for AVFM promoting violence was a satirical response to a Jezebel article promoting violence.
Grumpy Old Man
@xGrumpyOldManx@DavidFutrelle It means a great deal to you to believe Paul endorses DV? Unfortunately we all can read too.@MadShangi@JudgyBitch1
So, what have we learned from David Futrelle? Well, apparently, if beating a dead horse doesn’t work the first thousand times, beat it some more. The very same article that Futrelle cites as an example of Paul Elam’s endorsement of violence had already been clarified by the author himself. Even when it is explicitly stated, “Am I being serious? No,” Futrelle still has the nerve to try to rehash the same song-and-dance routine over and over, using every dishonest tactic in the book with every step. Even Futrelle admits that AVfM never explicitly endorses violence, yet they somehow do it subliminally in a super-secret code that can be perceived or understood only by Futrelle. What a pile of bullshit.
