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	Both Lana and Lilly are [[transwomen]]. Both transitioned years after The Matrix was released. Lana (formerly Larry) publicly announced her transition in 2008 and Lilly (formerly Andy) in 2016.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wachowskis#Personal_lives</ref>		Both Lana and Lilly are [[transwomen]]. Both transitioned years after The Matrix was released. Lana (formerly Larry) publicly announced her transition in 2008 and Lilly (formerly Andy) in 2016.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wachowskis#Personal_lives</ref>

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 == Claims it is a Metaphor for Gender Transitioning ==
-In 2017 the producers of The Matrix movie franchise, Lana and Lilly Wachowski, claimed that the Matrix was actually a metaphor for gender transitioning and in 2020 further claimed that the red pill is a metaphor for oestrogen therapy.<ref>https://www.newstatesman.com/long-reads/2017/02/reddit-the-red-pill-interview-how-misogyny-spreads-online</ref>
+In 2017 the producers of The Matrix movie franchise, [[Lana Wachowski|Lana]] and [[Lilly Wachowski]], claimed that the Matrix was actually a metaphor for gender transitioning and in 2020 further claimed that the red pill is a metaphor for oestrogen therapy.<ref>https://www.newstatesman.com/long-reads/2017/02/reddit-the-red-pill-interview-how-misogyny-spreads-online</ref>
 This claim was made 18 years after the movie's release.  During that time no one apparently noticed this ''metaphor''.  This means that either it is a recent fabrication and no such metaphor existed at the time of production of the movie, or it is so obscure as to be meaningless.

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 The terms are derived from the 1999 film The Matrix. In the film, the main character Neo is offered the choice between a red pill and a blue pill. The blue pill would allow him to remain in the fabricated reality of the Matrix, therefore living the “ignorance of illusion”, while the red pill would lead to living the “truth of reality” even though it is a harsher, more difficult life.<ref>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Matrix The Matrix, Wikipedia entry]</ref>
-AVFM employed ‘Take The Red Pill’ as its first logo tagline in 2009, and continued using it as a subtitle for AVFM Radio in 2011. The red pill has since become a leitmotif throughout the genre of men’s human rights advocacy. The following statement bout hos the 'red pill' metaphor was understood at [[A Voice for Men]] was given by Paul Elam in April 2010:
+AVFM employed ‘Take The Red Pill’ as its first logo tagline in 2009, and continued using it as a subtitle for AVFM Radio in 2011. The red pill has since become a leitmotif throughout the genre of men’s human rights advocacy. The following statement about how the 'red pill' metaphor was understood at [[A Voice for Men]] was given by Paul Elam in April 2010:
 <blockquote>"Underlying the platforms and politics of the Men’s Rights Movement is an unspoken mission to serve as a lifeline to this lost generation of our brothers. More than anything else, it is the job of men who understand, who have taken the red pill and seen through the Matrix, to push a meaningful archetype of manhood into the collective consciousness; to push it past the feminist censors and their obsequious male henchmen; to be willing, in fact, to roll over them in the process.

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 In 2017 the producers of The Matrix movie franchise, Lana and Lilly Wachowski, claimed that the Matrix was actually a metaphor for gender transitioning and in 2020 further claimed that the red pill is a metaphor for oestrogen therapy.<ref>https://www.newstatesman.com/long-reads/2017/02/reddit-the-red-pill-interview-how-misogyny-spreads-online</ref>
-This claims were made for 18 years after the movie's release.  During that time no one apparently noticed this ''metaphor''.  This means that either it is a recent fabrication and no such metaphor existed at the time of production of the movie, or it is so obscure as to be meaningless.
+This claim was made 18 years after the movie's release.  During that time no one apparently noticed this ''metaphor''.  This means that either it is a recent fabrication and no such metaphor existed at the time of production of the movie, or it is so obscure as to be meaningless.
 Both Lana and Lilly are [[transwomen]].  Both transitioned years after The Matrix was released.  Lana (formerly Larry) publicly announced her transition in 2008 and Lilly (formerly Andy) in 2016.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wachowskis#Personal_lives</ref>

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−	Both Lana and Lilly are [[transwomen]]. Both transitioned years after The Matrix was released. Lana (formerly ~~Andy~~) publicly announced her transition in 2008 and Lilly (formerly ~~Larry~~) in 2016.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wachowskis#Personal_lives</ref>	+	Both Lana and Lilly are [[transwomen]]. Both transitioned years after The Matrix was released. Lana (formerly Larry) publicly announced her transition in 2008 and Lilly (formerly Andy) in 2016.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wachowskis#Personal_lives</ref>

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 While not the first to use the term, AVfM is possibly the first to give it wide popularity in reference to understanding men’s issues – ie. we “take the red pill” when we reject negative press about the male sex and take a closer, more empathetic and honest look at men’s experiences. It involves an awakening of compassion, and an awakening to non-gynocentric forms of masculinity, ones based on a greater and better range of choices.<ref>[http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/a-voice-for-choice/ Peter Wright, A Voice for Choice (May 24, 2014)]</ref>
-== Claims it is a Metaphor for gender transitioning ==
+== Claims it is a Metaphor for Gender Transitioning ==
-In 2017 it was claimed that the Matrix was actually a metaphor for gender transitoning and in 2020 further claimed that the red pill is a metaphor for oestrogen therapy.<ref>https://www.newstatesman.com/long-reads/2017/02/reddit-the-red-pill-interview-how-misogyny-spreads-online</ref>
+In 2017 it was claimed that the Matrix was actually a metaphor for gender transitioning and in 2020 further claimed that the red pill is a metaphor for oestrogen therapy.<ref>https://www.newstatesman.com/long-reads/2017/02/reddit-the-red-pill-interview-how-misogyny-spreads-online</ref>
 This claims were made for 18 years after the movie's release.  During that time no one apparently noticed this ''metaphor''.  This means that either it is a recent fabrication and no such metaphor existed at the time of production of the movie, or it is so obscure as to be meaningless.
 ==References==

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	While not the first to use the term, AVfM is possibly the first to give it wide popularity in reference to understanding men’s issues – ie. we “take the red pill” when we reject negative press about the male sex and take a closer, more empathetic and honest look at men’s experiences. It involves an awakening of compassion, and an awakening to non-gynocentric forms of masculinity, ones based on a greater and better range of choices.<ref>[http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/a-voice-for-choice/ Peter Wright, A Voice for Choice (May 24, 2014)]</ref>		While not the first to use the term, AVfM is possibly the first to give it wide popularity in reference to understanding men’s issues – ie. we “take the red pill” when we reject negative press about the male sex and take a closer, more empathetic and honest look at men’s experiences. It involves an awakening of compassion, and an awakening to non-gynocentric forms of masculinity, ones based on a greater and better range of choices.<ref>[http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/a-voice-for-choice/ Peter Wright, A Voice for Choice (May 24, 2014)]</ref>

		+	== Claims it is a Metaphor for gender transitioning ==
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		+	In 2017 it was claimed that the Matrix was actually a metaphor for gender transitoning and in 2020 further claimed that the red pill is a metaphor for oestrogen therapy.<ref>https://www.newstatesman.com/long-reads/2017/02/reddit-the-red-pill-interview-how-misogyny-spreads-online</ref>
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		+	This claims were made for 18 years after the movie's release. During that time no one apparently noticed this ''metaphor''. This means that either it is a recent fabrication and no such metaphor existed at the time of production of the movie, or it is so obscure as to be meaningless.

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 <blockquote>if you can even imagine the possibility that you are worth more than investing your life, your money and your heart in begging for pussy, then stay right here at A Voice for Men. Take the red pill and start learning about life outside the bonds of tying up everything you are in female approval.<ref>[http://www.avoiceformen.com/women/pussy-begging-international/ Paul Elam, Pussy Begging International (March 21, 2011)]</ref></blockquote>
-Nevertheless, a subreddit page championing pick-up artistry and seduction strategy did emerge in late 2013 and took to itself the title The Red Pill – a site whose goals some in the men’s rights movement have rejected as retrograde gynocentrism, while others in the 'manosphere' see value to the movement. Needless to say the subreddit’s use of the red pill metaphor is unrelated to the way it is employed by the MRM. The red pill metaphor was occasionally used prior to its appearance at A Voice for Men, including at the Men’s Rights site The Spearhead, as well as in non-MRA contexts. It is currently used in a variety of unrelated settings, from politics, to religion, sport, finance, or alternatively pick-up artistry.
+Nevertheless, a subreddit page championing [[pick-up artistry]] and seduction strategy did emerge in late 2013 and took to itself the title The Red Pill – a site whose goals some in the men’s rights movement have rejected as retrograde gynocentrism, while others in the 'manosphere' see value to the movement. Needless to say the subreddit’s use of the red pill metaphor is unrelated to the way it is employed by the MRM. The red pill metaphor was occasionally used prior to its appearance at A Voice for Men, including at the Men’s Rights site The Spearhead, as well as in non-MRA contexts. It is currently used in a variety of unrelated settings, from politics, to religion, sport, finance, or alternatively pick-up artistry.
 While not the first to use the term, AVfM is possibly the first to give it wide popularity in reference to understanding men’s issues – ie. we “take the red pill” when we reject negative press about the male sex and take a closer, more empathetic and honest look at men’s experiences. It involves an awakening of compassion, and an awakening to non-gynocentric forms of masculinity, ones based on a greater and better range of choices.<ref>[http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/a-voice-for-choice/ Peter Wright, A Voice for Choice (May 24, 2014)]</ref>